Does anyone know whether pankratists wore caesti or any other hand covering, or was it strictly bare-handed?
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John Maddox Roberts |
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Does anyone know whether pankratists wore caesti or any other hand covering, or was it strictly bare-handed?
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ConalM |
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John,
As far as I can tell they were naked as the day they were born. Though it was very much all in fighting it was considered less dangerous than boxing. I recall reading that one contestant was up for both boxing and pankration and was attempting to switch the sequence so that he could do the pankration first as if he had done the boxing he may not have been in a fit state to "pankrat" after a boxing match. I haven't seen any images which show any support on these guys. Conal |
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gashford |
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In the article in teh Neo Pankrationist thread they mention that the caesti was not worn by the pankrationist. I have been planned on recreating one of these soon, as soon as I do I will post some images of it.
All the best Graham |
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KellyEGrant |
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Hi
Just to elaborate a little on the comments posted here already, cesti (cestus) were not worn during the Pancratium contest(pankratium). But all athletics were contested naked, using just the tools of the sport (so boxers wore gloves, or sometimes a leather support strap, and wrestlers quite often wore a waist belt). Pancratium, rather than boxing, was considered to be the most dangerous of the three athletic contests (wrestling, boxing, pancratium) and this is reflected in the size of the prize money that was offered to the winners of these contests (around 20% higher for the pancratium, but of course it varied from place to place and in different ancient time periods). Pancration was essentially no-holds barred by the period of the Roman empire (though it was officially bad form to bite or eye gouge, we have records of at least one professional who was nick named The Lion because he kept his nails long and bit his opponents). There are mosaic images of pancratists standing in a position which seems to indicate they are trying to get a testicle hold upon their opponents, and one record from Greece tells of an Olympic athlete who was strangled to death by his opponent, yet he still won the match. His own strangle hold was so strong on his opponent that the opponent signalled that he had been defeated - when they seperated the contestants the winner was found to be dead. This was considered to be the ultimate victory, as the athlete had ascended to the Gods at the moment of his win! |
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ConalM |
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I have read that boxing was considered the most dangerous to the extent that one contestant is recorded as asking for a pancration contest to be brought forward as he knew he would not be in a position to compete after his boxing match. This due to the damage gloves or thongs could do.
This of course was one incident but I tend to vere towards agreeing this as from what I have read about pancration it wasn't as no hold barred as people assume. I haven't read everything of course so I would be gratefull for any pointers which will vere me the other way. Regards Conal |
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